Roof over deck

[Reg Neufeld]

I am new to this program, I have the latest and greatest that they offered me in the email.  I am used to TC so this is a bit of a learning curve in being able to be precise.  No snaps no easy to use measure tools that I have found yet to help space objects out from each other.  Anyway back to topic.  I have a house with front veranda on, I wanted to put the roof over it, I then made a stone wall as a base then put a floor on it as the deck.  I then put some column on it to hold the roof and attempted to add the roof.I works kinda, I tried to pick the shed roof from the catalog but seem to get the same result no matter what pitch or type of roof I select.I get the roof up there, then try to edit the ends to make gables and that is where I am really struggling. My gable on the left side takes the change, I then try to right no go stays a hip, then I try the one against the house and it seem to work, now looking at it from the left 3d it looks pretty cool, looking from the right it still has a hip even though the properties says its a gable.  wow that was long and hopefully can be understood.

[Allan Chesney]

Reg,

Welcome to the world of FloorPlan.  If you thought TC was easy and this is a big learning curve try going the other way.  I have looked at TC serveral times over they years and given up every time.  When you get used to FloorPlan (or TurboFLOORPLAN now) you will find it a dream!!!

First suggestion:  Go to Settings / Program Settings and set all the defaults how you would like to work, especially in Drawing Aids and Building Aids. There you will find the Snap options etc and you can turn them on and off using the Staus Bar.  Also check out the Settings / Building Locations as these defaults will affect your 3D results.  You may also want to look at Tool / Dimensions. There is also a tape measure under Tools (Alt T M) with the precise value in the Commander bar at the bottom.  You may set wall dimensions, angles in the Commander bar also but I find it far easier just to watch the dimentions as you drag walls etc around.  Use the arrow keys to move (Nudge) things slightly (you can set the Nudge value down to 1mm if you want in Settings)

Re the roof:
Since your roof is free standing (not built on the walls of a room as such) then select Insert / Roofs / Roof By Picking Points.
In 2D: Make the four clicks for the four corners and you are done.
 
To make the Gables: 
Select the roof (in 3D)  The Green up arrow is the side selected. They toggle red/green. Select the sides you want (green), right click / Properties. Click the Roof Shape icon then select Gable.  Done.

Obviously you can refine it further by setting the overhang, pitch, soffit, appearance etc.

Hope that helps.

Allan

[Reg Neufeld]

well actually what said is exactly what I did do.  which does not seem to work. also there is no way to elevate the roof or lower it.  I am now thinking that I will have to try to make another layer or location as this program uses and then try it. I am not on the computer with the program now but will attempt to figure this out later.  I am building a drawing of my own house that I designed in TC and built for real.  It pretty neat to see how well it all resembles my home in very quick order, even the inside.  I went to bed thinking about this problem and hope this method works or can figure out one.  This is not a very complicated drawing, rectangle 2 story with a veranda on the front and covered deck off the back with a large garage attached to the side.  Having a bit of time with getting the garage elevation right as well as the floor is about 4 ft lower then the main floor which i think i figured out but I still have siding under my doors. Anyway roof is more important to me right now.

[Reg Neufeld]

here are a couple screen shots of what I am attempting to do and what is happening. this is getting to the point of giving up.  I am not sure what the idea of having all those catalog chooses for roofs when it makes no difference what you pick.  I am trying to pick the shed roof as that is what I would expect to use.

Reg

[jjocsak]

Reg, if you select the sides of the roof (both sides and the back) in either the 2d or 3d view and change them from gable hip to gable, then select the edge that is attached to the building and change the overhang to "0" that will give you a shed roof.

The shed roof has different properties when building. I remember coming accross a few but, unfortunately , I forgot what they were, sorry.

Jeff

[Reg Neufeld]

well that is pretty awesome, it worked 1/2 way so it was encourageing.  I am not sure why the right side will never attempt to do what the left side does, no matter what I get a hip even though it says its a gable.

[Allan Chesney]

Reg,

Your hip end appears to have a little dogleg in it near the corner - are you sure it is square? It looks as though you may have 5 sides instead of 4 and this is causing the problem.

Allan

[Reg Neufeld]

well it was much easier then I thought.  just needed a slap up side the head.  I was selecting the roof and right clicking the arrows but realized I needed to select only the side I want to edit then deselect and selct another side.  Only green arrows are editable.  An oversight that has caused me much stress and frustration.  Now I can move on to other areas.  And yes there was a dogleg in it but that was not the cause of it not working.  Now onto getting my garage elevation correct.