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Generic Brick Veneer Walls
« on: October 29, 2011, 06:50:46 pm »
Allan, this is possible one for you. The folder Walls / Generic Walls AU NZ, contains a 230 & 240 brick veneer wall. When used in a drawing the wall thickness are 70 & 90 respectively, and not 230 & 240 thick. Further more the walls are not shown as a brick veneer wall in the drawing. I can change the wall thickness to 230 or 240 in the edit properties,  (Core width) but cannot see how to create a true brick veneer wall with 110 brickwork, 40 cavity and 90 stud. Can this be done.
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Re: Generic Brick Veneer Walls
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2011, 11:28:21 pm »
Hi Bob,

The veneer walls will not add the exterior veneer until such time as the walls connect to make a 'room'. As long as they connect properly the exterior brick will be added.

The Core width (interior stud wall) is all you can change in TFP. If the internal combination does not come out at the dimensions you want, let me know and I can m!ke one for you.

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Re: Generic Brick Veneer Walls
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2011, 12:49:57 am »
Allan, thanks for the reply. It appears to be working ok now. When I edited the 240 wall and changed the brick type in the appearance tab, the wall appeared as 90mm thick walls even though the walls connected to make a room. I closed the program and reopened and all appeared to be ok again. Just one question, can walls on one building location be transferred to another. Allan you indicated in your reply, "if the combination does not come out as the dimensions you want, let me know and I can make one for you", what are you referring to?
Thanks again. Bob

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Re: Generic Brick Veneer Walls
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2011, 01:17:42 am »
Hi Bob,

The walls must connect (snap together) not just butt up to each other. If necessary take both walls too far so they cross each other, then delete the bits that stick out. The Veneer will then be added.

If you right click a wall, choose Select All Similar (or shift click each wall if you do not want all of them copied to another location, then right click again and choose Duplicate to Location, the selected walls will be duplicated.  In V16 it will also ask if you want to delete the original ones.  Obviously say No if you want the walls on both locations.

When I said  "if the combination does not come out as the dimensions you want, let me know and I can make one for you",  I meant that if you want a wall that is exactly "110 brickwork, 40 cavity and 90 stud" as per your first post, I can make that combination for you if necessary. When your existing wall adds the veneer it may be 100 + 50 + 90 for example.  In TFP you cannot change brick or cavity, only the stud (Core) width.

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Re: Generic Brick Veneer Walls
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2011, 12:43:48 pm »
Allan, again many thanks for the reply. If it is not too difficult and time consuming, it would be great if you could produce a brick veneer wall with 110 brickwork, 40 cavity and 90 stud.
Bob

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Re: Generic Brick Veneer Walls
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2011, 05:45:57 pm »
Hi Bob,

I have attached a BIM file that contains the wall configuration you wanted.

To get it into your Catalogue, save the BIM file to your computer, go to File> Catalogues> Import BIM. 
Select the Document on the right of the panel and click the Transfer button.

The wall will now be part of your Catalogue.

During the import you may get a message to say it was created in a later version. Usually you can just ignore it and the import will continue.

I hope it is what you want. Let me know if you need it modified at all.

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Re: Generic Brick Veneer Walls
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2011, 12:44:09 pm »
Allan, the wall works brilliantly. Many thanks. Maybe a silly question, but can a novice create the same wall as you did. I would like to create other walls, eg. 270 double brick wall (110 brick, 50 cavity, 110 brick), a 260 double brick wall, and a 230 brick veneer wall.
The more I learn about this program the more I am impressed.
Again, many thanks. Bob

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Re: Generic Brick Veneer Walls Further Question
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2011, 02:34:50 pm »
Allan, a further question, can a single brick wall 110mm with engaged piers at 1.5 centres be produced. This type of construction is seen in a garage construction.

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Re: Generic Brick Veneer Walls
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2011, 07:45:23 pm »
Hi Bob,

Last question first.  The only way I can think of at present, is to make the first pier, shift /select the 3 sides of it and right click Duplicate, then drag it along to the next position. If you set the grid spacing to 1.5 m it will be easy to position or you can watch the Commander bar 'Distance' as you drag. Maybe easier - just move the duplicate a little, then, while still selected, right click and select Move. This will give you the dimension line that will change as you move it.

If you are not overly worried about the 'technicality' of the drawing, you could just use Columns set to the same size and texture. Position one, right click it and select Array, say how many you want and how far apart and it is all done. (see image).

Re the Veneer Walls:  No you cannot create this in TFP.  I have used the parent program, Envisioneer, which allows customising of the interior configuration of walls, framing etc. (TFP is really only for exterior visualisation so interior configuration of things are irrelevent). If you let me know the interior combination of the 260 and 230 walls also, I will put the three of them in one BIM. They only take a few seconds to do.

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Re: Generic Brick Veneer Walls
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2011, 01:03:33 pm »
Allan, again many thanks for your help and patience. The walls I would like are as follows:
270 brick (110 brick,50 cavity,110 brick)
260 brick (110 brick, 40 cavity, 110 brick)
230 brick veneer (110 brick,50 cavity, 70 stud)
250 brick veneer (110 brick, 40 cavity, 100 stud)

It would appear, that some time down the track, Envisioneer may be worth considering. But at the moment I will get to know TFP a little better.
Regards Bob

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Re: Generic Brick Veneer Walls
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2011, 06:25:28 pm »
Hi Bob,

Whatever you learn in TFP applies to Envisioneer so it is not wasted by any means. Envisioneer adds all the 2D drawing functionality and along with it some customisation such as the interior of walls configuration that is used in the 2D function. Everythng in TFP is already in Envisioneer with more added for 2D purposes. If or when you switch to Envisioneer you will initially see no difference so TFP is a great learning tool and fully functional 3D tool. There is nothing different in the Envisioneer 3D functions.

I will make your walls this evening. I am using my phone at the moment as we are on the way to Margaret River for a few days, so the computer is packed.

Allan

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Re: Generic Brick Veneer Walls
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2011, 05:24:13 am »
Hi Bob,

The brick veneer walls BIM file is attached.
Let me know if they all work OK.

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Re: Generic Brick Veneer Walls
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2011, 12:18:08 pm »
Many thanks Allan, they all work perfectly.

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Re: Generic Brick Veneer Walls
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2011, 12:01:24 am »
Hi Allan:

Could you make one more brick veneer wall for me please as well
70 brick
50 cavity
90mm framing (lines to be black when in 2D)

This set up is the most common in NZ

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Re: Generic Brick Veneer Walls
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2011, 06:05:20 am »
Hi Douglas,

The 210mm Brick Veneer Wall is attached.
All the best.

Allan
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