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Printing Plans and Elevations etc on One Sheet of Paper
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* June 04, 2009, 08:36:20 AM
For a long time different users have asked about printing sets of plans including putting plans and several elevations views or sections views etc on a single piece of paper or several sheets.  Some have done this by saving the different views as images, opened them in PaintShop Pro or similar programs, arranged the images on a single sheet, added dimensions and text and then printed the documents.

While this does work, it is not simple and involves using other software that is not really designed for the purpose, as it does not provide automatic dimensioning, printing to scale etc.

Attached is an illustrated tutorial explaining a way to do this all in TFP, utilising its lines, text and automatic dimensioning tools, to add the technical details required for a more profession finished document.  These can be printed as a PDF document for printing on large pieces of paper if necessary.

For those very familiar with TFP it is quite simple and you may not need the tutorial, but those not so familiar may find it useful.
Basically the principle is to export each plan or elevations, sections etc., as DXF files and import them again onto a new blank project using a new project for each 'sheet' of your plan set.  Arrange each view to suitably fill the page, lock them in the Display filter, then use the Layout toolbar to add additional lines and circles, text and dimensions.  Because it is still a DXF file, it remains to scale in the new project, so the TFP dimensioning tools will automatically generate any additional dimensions needed (such as heights on elevations etc).  You can add a border, text and title boxes before printing. On the Terrain tab if you turn off the Show Contours, the terrain should snap to your page border, making printing to fit paper, easier.

Attached also is an image for a quick view and an A3 pdf of a sample plan and elevations. This is just a quick example, with dummy text (obviously!) to indicate what can be done but I am sure it will give you the idea.

I hope those who need to print TFP plans etc find it useful.

LATER EDIT: Have just added another image to show how to adjust dimensions that you add to elevations etc.

Allan
« Last Edit: June 28, 2009, 05:28:25 AM by Allan Chesney »

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Kalamunda, Perth, Western Australia
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* June 06, 2009, 09:25:57 AM
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This is great information, but I'm having difficulty keeping the elevation drawings to scale in the process.  I must be doing something incorrect on the Object Import Wizard selection regarding defining the size of the element. Any suggestions?
Thanks!

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* June 07, 2009, 08:03:24 AM
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Hi Vick (I presume)

Welcome to the forum.

First I presume you did export as a 2D Drawing (second option - NOT 2D image)?
When you import, the Units dropdown should be set to whatever you have the program set to.  If you use Imperial, it will probably be set to Feet-inches already, so you should not need to change anything. I use Metric but it still defaults to Feet-Inches so I have to change it to Millimeters each time.

When you get to this page check the Resulant Width - it should be the length of your elevation as it appeared in the display window.  In other words, if you had the display so that the walls were right on the edge of each side of the screen and your house between those two walls was 40 feet, then the Resultant Width should say 40' (12 meters or whatever).  If it doesn't then choose one of the other settings so that it does say that.

If your plan worked OK the elevations should also, as long as you kept the same settings.

Let me know how you get on with it.

Allan

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* June 07, 2009, 07:17:58 PM
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It worked!  By selecting "milimeters" the drawing came out to the correct scale in feet and inches.  Thanks for the assistance!
Vick

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* June 08, 2009, 02:51:04 AM
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Hi Vick,

I am glad that worked for you. I suspect TFP actually uses metric measurements behind the scenes as you often see similar types of things with dimensions, sizes etc.

Allan
« Last Edit: March 21, 2010, 12:52:16 PM by Allan Chesney »

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Kalamunda, Perth, Western Australia
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TurboFloorPlan Home and Landscape Pro V16.0.C1.901
Envisioneer Construction Suite V9.1.2.1234
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* October 13, 2009, 01:15:12 PM
#5
Really good information!

thank you!

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* April 13, 2010, 05:42:45 AM
#6
Re: Printing Plans and Elevations etc on One Sheet of Paper

Hi Allen,

I'm a bit new to this and ahve read most of the discussions here in trying to get my first house design on paper and then to the builders. I found the discussion on the topic of printing to mospful, but for some reason I cannot export the Left and Right Elevation views, but no poblem with the Front and Back. I've researched and read, but have not found a solution to this. Do you have any advice on this?

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* April 13, 2010, 06:11:19 AM
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Hi Curtis (I presume),

Welcome to the forum.

That sounds most strange - there is no difference between the elevations really, just a different angle of the same building.  I could understand it if you could not export any of the elevations, due to some corruptions somewhere, but I can't think of any reason why it does not like the left or right elevation. Do you get a message advising the failure or what happens?  Do these elevations display correctly?

What happens if you create your own left and right elevation - will they export?  If you have not tried that, give it a go and let me know how it goes. If that does not work either you could post the file here or emaili it to me (alches(AT)iinet.net.au) and I will have a look to see if it happens for me and if I can see any cause.

Allan

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* January 05, 2012, 08:04:24 AM
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Hello Allan,

I am new to TFP, started with instant architect,  Just down loaded TFP 3d dlx. because I need to make elevation views which IA only allows in 3D.

I am working thru this but I cannot figure how to dimension the elevation view. The dimensioning tools are off unless I am in plan view.

How do I set eave heights, roof heights etc.

Thank you in advance

Don Haehl

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* January 05, 2012, 09:26:20 AM
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Hi Don and Welcome to the forum.

Sorry but you cannot add dimensions to the elevations - unless you do as described in the PDF in the first message in this post.

Simply put you have to export the elevations you want and save them to your computer as DXF files (I assume Deluxe does that?). You then start a new project and import the Elevation.dxf files that you saved, into the new project. You can now position them where you want and add dimensions, text etc.  You can bring multiple elevations into this project if you want, arrange them as you want and then print them all on one page.

Allan
« Last Edit: January 08, 2012, 09:31:08 AM by Allan Chesney »

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* January 08, 2012, 05:11:36 AM
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Allan,

Thanks so much for the help!

I am getting the hang of it.

Don


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* March 17, 2012, 03:52:19 AM
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Hi Alan,
I have a PE who will we finalizing the plans. He needs them in DXF formate.
Question is , will he be able to alter the files I send him using sketch up or auto cad etc. ?

Don

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* March 17, 2012, 08:15:42 AM
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Hi Don,

If your PE needs the plans in DXF format, then just export them that way and he should be able to edit them in TurboCAD, AutoCAD or other program that accepts DXF although it may not have the data inthe same Layers that these other programs use.

TFP will export as a 2D or 3D DXF, so you can export the plan, elevations etc or the whole model.

Allan

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Kalamunda, Perth, Western Australia
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TurboFloorPlan Home and Landscape Pro V16.0.C1.901
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* August 18, 2013, 03:49:05 PM
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Hi Alla,,

I'm exporting perspective views from the tutorial as I have some questions:

1 - Why where the outer walls intersect the internal lines appear? can be removed?

2 - How do I export lines in black and not in different colors?

3 - In the under roof I created a frame using celing button you can delete the intersection point of the two segments in the roof?

4 - I also raised the ground, you can remove the internal oblique lines?


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* August 19, 2013, 08:02:22 AM
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There are a number of limitations with this method of exporting and importing elevations etc and you have come across a few of them unfortunately.

1.  These wall intersect lines cannot be removed in this version of the program. The only thing you can do is to drag the end of the interior wall that is creating the intersection line, back slightly from the outside wall, so that it does not actually intersect. Export the elevation and then move the wall end back again.

2. If you are exporting the model as per the instructions (as a DXF file) then it will be in black only after import.

3. Presumably you have created the frame using individual objects so you will get this effect. If you create the frame using the Roof tool, you should not get this problem.

4. There is no way to remove the Terrain's diagonal lines. You can enlarge the Mesh spacing and Contour lines to their maximum. on the Terrain settings but you will still get some. If that is a problem, then turn off the Terrain altogether while you do the export and just draw the lines that you want after you import the DXF file. (Use the Layout toolbar - it may be turned off)

Hope that makes sense and helps.

Allan

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Kalamunda, Perth, Western Australia
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TurboFloorPlan Home and Landscape Pro V16.0.C1.901
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