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General Category - V.16 and Earlier => V12 - V16 General Discussion => Topic started by: Doug.S on March 12, 2011, 02:12:31 PM

Title: IES lighting
Post by: Doug.S on March 12, 2011, 02:12:31 PM
a couple sources for IES files

http://www.colorkinetics.com/support/ies/

http://www.lithonia.com/Photometrics.aspx

see help file for how to import/use
Title: Re: IES lighting
Post by: Jack Zimmer on April 29, 2011, 09:06:00 AM
Hi Doug,

I haven't taken the time to try these lights you found out. I was wondering if you have found any that you really like? How do they work in the program?


When I test them I will be sure to report results, they look very interesting.

thanks,

Jack
Title: Re: IES lighting
Post by: Doug.S on April 30, 2011, 07:15:22 PM
I was looking for a narrow angle spot light...small halogen type over a picture or for one item track lighting

I tried a few and found one...but was a while back so don't remember details now....project was canceled

Oddly, while some make a difference, unless looking for a very specialized light distribution effect, many are much like picking from the std TFP list.

Most of these are commercial lighting
Title: Re: IES lighting
Post by: Kajvin - Robert W on August 18, 2011, 12:53:12 PM
Hi Doug and Jack
I have don a fast test in TFP16 H&L pro

I use same settings for all rending level 2 at Rendering, daylight of, 7pm toronto Antialiasing 4 Ray Trace

image 75 = 75w incan ceil flush.IES TFP 12 TurboFLOORPLANv12 - IntLighting.bdb Catalog
image 100 = 100w incan ceil flush.IES TFP2 TurboFLOORPLANv12 - IntLighting.bdb Catalog
And image RT5 2 28T5 MVOLT GEB95S_56W= RT5N_2_28T5_GEB95S.ies from Lithonia Lighting

They have some great light source.
I will do a more serious test later then I have more time
http://www.visual-3d.com/tools/photometricViewer/default.aspx?id=18576 look at this tool

Robert
Title: Re: IES lighting Matris del 1
Post by: Kajvin - Robert W on September 10, 2011, 05:21:33 PM
Test of IES-light TFP and Philips. All images have same renderings settings. Materils Ceiling Greenmount silk (Paint Historical Colors), renderings effect Dull. Floor Surface Pattern= wood, Material= Windham cream (Paint Historical Colors), renderings effect= dull, Walls Material Pale Moon and Greenmount silk (Paint Historical Colors) renderings effect= dull. Interior litghting = Ceiling Fixture 9  Z= -203mm Matris 18x8 1000mm distance row and columns. Room Length 20000mm Width= 10000 Hight= 3000mm

IES-file from TFP V16 and Philips http://www.colorkinetics.com/support/ies/

/Robert
Title: Re: IES lighting Matris del 1
Post by: Kajvin - Robert W on September 10, 2011, 05:43:33 PM
Quote from: Robert W - "robban" on September 10, 2011, 05:21:33 PM
Test of IES-light TFP and Philips. All images have same renderings settings. Materils Ceiling Greenmount silk (Paint Historical Colors), renderings effect Dull. Floor Surface Pattern= wood, Material= Windham cream (Paint Historical Colors), renderings effect= dull, Walls Material Pale Moon and Greenmount silk (Paint Historical Colors) renderings effect= dull. Interior litghting = Ceiling Fixture 9  Z= -203mm Matris 18x8 1000mm distance row and columns.
Room Length 20000mm Width= 10000 Hight= 3000mm

IES-file from TFP V16 and Philips http://www.colorkinetics.com/support/ies/

/Robert
Title: Re: IES lighting
Post by: Doug.S on September 11, 2011, 08:44:28 AM
Thanks for sharing your results.

Since I also use another 3D program called Carrara Studio, and it uses .ies lights, this could be even more useful.

Went looking for some info...for Carrara....and found this tut that may interest ies users on ies and results:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhj5xulB8r4&feature=related

Which then inspired me to find a free ies viewer via Google
this one seems to be like the one in the tut:
http://www.photometricviewer.com/
http://www.photometricviewer.com/1_4_Download.html   I could not get default installer.exe or .msi  (use drop-down selector)
to work in WinXP 32 bit but ies viewer only 299t.zip runs OK with no install; run from unzipped folder.

Handy to see visual results before TFP render.

more ies lights via Google
http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&rlz=1R2GGLL_enUS397&source=hp&q=free+ies+lights&rlz=1R2GGLL_enUS397&pbx=1&oq=free+ies+&aq=1&aqi=g5&aql=&gs_sm=c&gs_upl=0l0l2l2657l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=2ea25270560d40fb&biw=1280&bih=827
Title: Re: IES lighting
Post by: Doug.S on September 11, 2011, 09:17:52 AM
and GE Lightbeams seems like a winner

from GE:
http://www.gelighting.com/na/business_lighting/education_resources/tools_software/
at bottom of page

a really nice set of views and controls

large file because it has lots of GE lights in ies format

installs in C:\program files; see GE "data" folder to get to ies files directly if you need to import to TFP
Title: Re: IES lighting
Post by: Kajvin - Robert W on September 12, 2011, 01:55:59 PM
Quote from: Doug.S on September 11, 2011, 08:44:28 AM

http://www.photometricviewer.com/
http://www.photometricviewer.com/1_4_Download.html   I could not get default installer.exe or .msi  (use drop-down selector)
to work in WinXP 32 bit but ies viewer only 299t.zip runs OK with no install; run from unzipped folder.

My program install OK! I used Windows Installer package (msi) 2.99n in the dorp-down selector Thanks for the tip it a useful program.

/Robert
Title: Re: IES lighting
Post by: Doug.S on September 12, 2011, 08:02:25 PM
The GE Light Beams 3 app seems to be the better program; more controls and displays and excellent results.
Title: Re: IES lighting
Post by: Kajvin - Robert W on September 13, 2011, 04:09:49 PM
This look like a great program, I will do some comparing test between to see how good TFP render light source with different IES-profile

Quote from: Doug.S on September 12, 2011, 08:02:25 PM
The GE Light Beams 3 app seems to be the better program; more controls and displays and excellent results.
Title: Re: IES lighting
Post by: Kajvin - Robert W on September 14, 2011, 04:49:49 PM
I have made a black room with 20' x 20'x8' in the middle of the room have I ad a single bulb.
I have use Philips ColorBlast_12_Clear_LTL16004_116-000025-02_070909.ies to the light see Light_Beams' =3 light source red green blue
Light=ColorBlast_12_Clear_LTL16004_116-000025-02_070909.ies x 3 (R G B)
Light pos x=0 y=60 z=-8 (Z= + up - down X=+ East -West Y= + south - north)
SET1   R=G=B=100
SET2   R=100 G=off B=off
SET3   R=100 G=100 B=off
SET4   R=off G=100 B=100
SET5   R=50 G=50 B=100
SET6   R=50 G=50 B=25
SET7 R=100 G=off B=100
/Robert
Title: Re: IES lighting
Post by: Jack Zimmer on September 15, 2011, 10:40:30 PM
Quotenarrow angle spot light...small halogen type over a picture or for one item track lighting 

Hi Doug,

There is a single spot in the program. If you resized it (deeper), turn off the 'lense' in 3D settings, and move the light back 'into' the light, it gives more of a narrow beam than one with the light fully outside the fixture.

Jack
Title: Re: IES lighting
Post by: Doug.S on September 16, 2011, 10:49:00 AM
Quote from: Jack Zimmer on September 15, 2011, 10:40:30 PM
Hi Doug,
There is a single spot in the program. If you resized it (deeper), turn off the 'lense' in 3D settings, and move the light back 'into' the light, it gives more of a narrow beam than one with the light fully outside the fixture.
Jack

Thanks for this useful tip!
Title: Re: IES lighting
Post by: Kajvin - Robert W on September 19, 2011, 04:06:03 PM
Hi Doug and Jack!
I used the single spot in my black-room and  put a painting on the wall,

3 X Colorblast_12_Frosted_LTL16005_116-000025-00_070909.ies one for each color

I found out If you set Z=-1' X=-2', 0, 2' (R, B, G) and Y= distans from wall - 1' you get the effect I have in this image below.

I have zip IES-file for the colorblast 3 different version

/Robert