I have searched the archives for a clue on how to create the attached roof, but started to confuse myself, so I am sure one of the TFP experts will be able to assist. I am trying to create a roof design as attached. Can you show me how if it is not too difficult. I must say being a long term TC user I am battling to adjust to the TFP way of doing things.
Hi Bob,
If what you are just wanting to do is make the 'north' (I presume) end roof a gable, all you need to do is select that edge (green arrow - all others red), right click select Properties, click Type (roof image) and select Gable.
If I have missed some other aspect of your roof image then ask again. That seemed to be the only thing that was not just an ordinary hip roof.
Allan
Thanks Allan, yes, I was not clear on what I wanted. The roof marked modified plan is what I am trying to draw. I hope this is clearer.
Hi Bob,
to make a gable on the right end you need to select the roof, right click and select Break, then click on the edge of the roof where the gable starts (in line with the roof edge opposite) and as close to the corner as you can get (zoom in close). This now becomes a separate edge you can covert to a Gable.
Some times dragging this edge out makes it easier to see what you are doing, then drag it back again when converted.
Allan
Allan, I understand the method but implementing is a bit of a worry. What is the best way to line up the roofs as per the screen dump.
Many thanks Bob
Hi Bob,
If you zoom in really close you can move the various edges even though they are very small. The arrows indicate the surfaces, some very tiny, and the direction the slope goes. Save first just in case!
You can also switch to Designers View or a 3D semi overhead view, select the roof, right click and select Match Plane. You then select the side you wan to match the other to and then the second one. (or is it the other way around - can't remember now and I am using my phone so can't check right now. Save first then try both - undo if necessary).
Allan
be sure to set all your gables before you try zoomed-in minor adjusting as other changes may cause you to go adjust again...
in other words, get all the setup correct, adjust to get it close, zoom-in close to make final minor adjustments.
Doug & Allan, following your instructions I got the roofs to line up and then proceeded to fill in the gable end, The results below:
Any clues how to fix, thank you. Bob
Hi Bob,
Good to hear you got the roof set up as you wanted.
You did not say however what the problem was with the gable ends. Is it just the different colour or something else that is wrong? Colour setting is just the same as normal.
Allan
Allan, the larger gable should not be there, this section of roof should be roof area and not a gable end. Maybe I need to post a drawing to be more specific.
Hi Bob,
Sounds like the arrow pointing up that face, needd to be changed from Gable to Hip. It may be an arrow that does not even appear to have a face attached but it does, even if tiny.
Allan
from your design info I thought you wanted 2 gable ends.....and I agree with Allen, change the one from gable to hip should help you solve that location problem.
My suggestion was to set the other gable end (to the right end of house)...then go back to fine tune the other gable/walls (from 2D view), zoomed-in close for making small adjustments....to then get the roof lines desired at the peaks and ridges.
It may work fine to get the one exact and then make the other end as gable too....but once a roof is "done" right I try to leave it alone.
Allan & Doug, thanks for your replies.
As indicated, I got the roofs to line up but when I converted one end to a gable the gable spread across two roofs. I am obviously doing something wrong. I have attached a zip of the drawing, I am sure you will be able to sort it out for me.
Thanks, Bob
How is this?
Well none Dug, it looks like you split the wall on the right side, is that correct. Could you briefly explain how it was done.
Many thanks, Bob
I just followed the guidance provided above....make end roof as gable.
Select side roof, break, make it gable, adjust where split is to get roof to blend peaks as needed.
Actually tho.....I started with your .bld file....you had done some of the work already (break was done)....so I selected the roof on end and made it a gable....
then selected roof with gable (the one now between two other gables) and made it back to hip....then adjusted the "break" point location to get roof peaks correct (zoomed-in close for making very small adjustments by dragging the break point).
I'm guessing you accidently selected the wrong part of the roof (green up arrow) to make gable from hip, and ended up with two gables along same side of the house....when you needed to select the hip roof section 90 degrees around the corner and change it (north wall/roof) to gable.
Doug, many thanks for the explanation.
Bob
I had the same issue with the modified gable roof and found a "quick cheat" for it. I stepped the outside wall 1/16" (invisible to the eye) at the same vertical location as the wall adjacent to the step - you basically make two rooms (one offset 1/16" from the edge) and delete the inner wall. When you apply the the roof it comes in perfect automatically without the need for tweaking the roof lines. See picture for an explanation on how this is done. All I did to the roof was changing it to be gable. This is probably not the best way to do it, but I think it was the quickest way to ensure that the roof always came in correct (especially if you are changing the roof and walls as you build up the house).
/Bjorn
this is precisely what I have been struggling to achieve with my roofs for months. Can you please explain this cheat another way. I cannot seem to understand what you are doing to get bothe the main roof and the roof that turns 90 degrees to have gables on all ends.
Every time I try to select the arrows and change the gable ends I get really funky roofs.
Mark
Allan & Bob,
What am I doing wrong here. I am trying to achieve gables on three ends. Let's call them east, south and west ends. I can get gables on east and south but you can see that the west end is completely skewed. Please try to explainto me breaks and drags and try to be very specific when you mention edges, start points etc. This is just not sinking into my thick skull
Mark ??? :P :'(
Hi Mark,
See the reply in your other post ( http://forums.turbofloorplan.com/index.php/topic,2291.0.html (http://forums.turbofloorplan.com/index.php/topic,2291.0.html) )
Allan