sometimes when i draw the second wall, i can't get the cavity gap the size i wan't. it either overlaps or is too large. help please!
Hi and welcome to the forum!
From your description it sounds as though you are trying to draw two walls parallel to each other. If you choose one of the Veneer walls it will automatically add the exterior brick layer to the interior one as long as the four walls join correctly.
You will not be able to control the width of the cavity but if one of the standard walls does not have the dimensions you want, let me know and I can create a suitable one for you. Several have been posted to the forum in the past so if you use the forum Search for 'cavity wall' or 'doubke brick' you should find some posts from me with BIM files attached. You can import these and you will then have a variety of double brick cavity walls and hopefully one of the ones in the BIM file will be the size you want - if not let me know and I will make one for you..
Allan
hi Allen, i searched for cavity wall and double brick- nothing!
I am wondering how you did the Search - when I do it I get 35 entries for Cavity Wall and 19 for Double Brick, both listing your question first - See images.
Anyway I am now using my computer, not my phone, so I can give you a couple of references that have BIM files attached:
http://forums.turbofloorplan.com/index.php/topic,1202.0.html (http://forums.turbofloorplan.com/index.php/topic,1202.0.html)
http://forums.turbofloorplan.com/index.php/topic,1206.msg5878.html#msg5878 (http://forums.turbofloorplan.com/index.php/topic,1206.msg5878.html#msg5878)
The first relates to Australian standards so may include the wall you need. If the precise wall measurements of Brick (Veneer), Cavity, Stud (Core) or whatever, are not there, let me know and I will make one to your dimensions. You will be able to change the width of the Core (interior wall) but not the Veneer or Cavity, so I will need to set these for you if what you want is not there.
Allan
hi Allen, i didn't know i had to include " when using search, (computor novice!). anyway, i read those messages and i don't think i can use them. i just want 110mm external brick wall, 90mm internal brick with a cavity of about 30-50mm. Sounds easy but obviously isn't. Is it possible to do it on TFP?
Hi again Peter,
You do not need to add quotes around a word unless you want to search for two words together (eg "cavity wall"). This would only find both words together. You would still find it without the quotes but in that case it would find posts that have the word 'cavity' and 'wall' in them but not necessarily together (or the cavity may refer to a dental cavity ;D but wall would also have to be in the same post!). I did my search without the quotes.
What you want with the cavity wall is certainly possible in TFP but you must have the Veneer wass type as in the BIM files referred to in the previous post. I have attached another BIM file that does include what you need. Any of them can be used as the Brick veneer is set to 110 and you can adjust the interior wall thickness by changing the wall's 'Core' setting. For example if you choose the '270mm Double Brick with 50mm cavity', you can change the 'Core' setting to 90mm so you would then have 110mm brick 50mm cavity and 90mm brick.
Go to File / Catalogues / Import BIM to import the attached file. It will add a Veneer category to your Walls with two double brick walls and two brick and stud walls both with 2 cavity sizes. As mentioned before you can change the thickness of the interior stud or brick wall by changing the Core setting and you can save this with a new name. (Select one, right click and select Add Element, give it a name, change the core setting and save)
Hope that helps
Allan
hi Allen, thanks for providing those bim files. unfortunately, my windows xp won't download them. An advert appeared on my screen for various programs that can download bim files for free. however, reading their agreement revealed costs but not how much. So, still no wiser. Peter.
Hi Peter,
Bim file extensions open with TFPlan. You do not have to buy anything to get them to open in the program.
Allan explains how to add them or:
Do a search in TFPlan Help for BIM files and you will see a number of ways you can insert them into the program. You must first 'Save As' and place the download into a folder on your computer, then add them to the program.
Adding them to the program is a one time operation and they will be available for future use.
Hi Peter,
As Jack said, you do not open the file - just click on the BIM file at the end of my message and save it to your computer. Do not try to open it - just open TFP and go to File / Catalogue / Import BIM and select the downloaded file from your computer. When you do you will be presented with a split screen. Your existing catalogue will be on one side and the BIM file on the other. Just click Document on the BIM file side and the Transfer button will become active. Click the Transfer button and the new walls, from the BIM file, will be transferred to your catalogue and will appear as a Veneer Walls section in your list of walls.
Allan
thanks jack and allen, i went to "import BIM" and selected the downloaded file. i was presented with a block headed Version Incompatability. cannot open file. This project was created in a version TFP that is newer than the one i'm operating. click the link below to operate. so, i downloaded an updated 15.1 program. tryed again, still no good.
Hi Peter,
The version should not make any difference - if you click OK (or whatever is on the button), it should just carry on, as the BIM file itself is not linked to a version. It was created in later version so that is correct, but it should still work. Sorry - I should have warned you about the message.
Allan
hi Allen, i just noticed something else. when i go file/catalogue/bim import, i'm presented with an OPEN block. Peter
hi Allen, i wasn't being 'flippant' in my last message about OPEN block. i just realised that i was trying to open the bim file when i hit the left mouse key. i'm still unable to import and transfer a bim file. when i follow your advice and go to file/catalogue/import bim, i dont receive the split screen as in your message but am presented with an 'open' block. Peter.
Hi Peter,
Can you give me two screen images please? One with the File/Catalogue/Impot BIM displayed and the other of the Open Block message. Please do not think that I don't believe you, I just want to see for myself to see how the menus and messages differ from what I see.
Allan
hi Allen, i don't know how to send you a screen image, sorry.
Hi Peter,
All you need to do is go to File / Catalogues / Import BIM and while these menu options are displayed, press the Print Screen button. Depending on the keyboard you are using it will be abbreviated, probably to Prt Sc and it is usually on the top row of keys.
This will copy the screen image to the computer's Clipboard. Now you can open any photo editing program you have, such as Paint Shop Pro, Photoshop, or even just Microsoft Paint (that automatically comes with Windows) and paste it in (Edit / Paste or Ctrl + V). You can then just save it as an image (JPG) and the click Attachments on the forum and attach it to your reply. You could even paste it into a Word document but that has to be opened to see it so a JPG is better.
For any messages that pop up you can do a similar thing but if you hold down the Alt key when you press 'Prt Sc', if will copy just the actual message box instead of the whole screen.
Allan
hi Allen, when i go to the "looking for help list", i see that you have sent a reply,(15), but when i scroll down to read it, it is'nt there. peter.
Hi Peter,
It is on the next page - click page 2 at the top or bottom.
Allan
hi allen, the file i couldn't transfer was "270,260,250 and 230 brick veneer". i just tried the "brick veneer walls" and the split page appeared and i transferred it ok. i tried again with the other bim file and it failed as before; perhaps it failed before it reached my computor.
Hi Peter,
Both files were created exactly the same.way so both should work. I would try down loading it again in case the first one was corrupted.
Allan
hi Allen, i deleted that bim file then i transferred it to my computor again from your letter. i tried again to transfer it to my tfp, same result- no go! Peter.
Hi Peter,
I have attached the file again for you to try it again. Before doing so I imported this same BIM into my own copy of TFP and it worked perfectly.
Please try it again using the attached copy and let me know how it goes.
Allan