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Title: Another Project
Post by: garystan on April 29, 2013, 05:22:27 PM
 Hi everybody :

                         I'm working on another  project.  But I need some advice. On this one,   I copied the Ground Floor ( "to a new location " ) to the Second floor.   "Stretched it out to the desired length.  It looks  okay.  But the Garage door doesn't meet the ground.    In a previous Project (of the same arrangement),  I lowered the Ground Floor, so the Garage Door would meet the Ground.  But,  I think it offset the Second Floor.  And I would up trying to correct the Floor and Wall Height.  So everything would be  "connected".      On this newer version,  everything is "untouched",   but the Garage Door is  "kinda high".    I tried lowering the Garage Door, but, it ended up lower than the Ground Floor.    In the screen shots,  the  "newer" version doesn't have any windows or doors....yet.  Just the basic structure.   I know I'm doing something wrong,  I'm just not sure what it is.         On the New Garage View 2,   I clicked on SELECT ALL.       On New Garage Edit View,  I clicked on SELECT ALL.

                                                                                                                          garystan
Title: Re: Another Project
Post by: Allan Chesney on April 29, 2013, 08:30:20 PM
Hi Garystan,

The last image is correct by how you have the Building Location settings configired. If you compare this image with the middle one, you will notice that the middle one has no 'space' for a floor on the second level. Now look at the last image.again - you can see the thickness allowed for the floor (even if there isn't one). The groud floor sits on the terrain and by default is 300mm or 12" thick and the walls, as seen by your 'selection 'lines', sit on on top of this floor (even if no floor is inserted). This is all controlled by the Building Locations.

Doors and widows always insert at the Locations Head Height setting and in the case of door, extend down to the floor. Question: Is your garage floor at the same level as your house floor? In most places I have been there is a step up to the house floor - in other words the garage is a lower level and level with the Terrain or more often, the Terrain or drive slopes up to the garage floor level.

So you have a few options:

1   You could just right click Elevate the door lower by 300mm or 1' to bring it down to Terrain level (but you will end up with the floor in the garage too high - the car would have to climb the step!). Or you could lower the door and lower the floor just in the garage to avoid the step.

2   You could slope the Terrain up to the door.

3   You could just raise the whole Terrain (in Program Settings) but then if it rains you run the risk of the water running in the front and back doors in addition to the garage. This is easiest but it depends on whether you are actually going to build the house and want the plans to be accurate.

4   You could  put the garage on its own Location if it has a floor level lower than the house itself and make the garage Location walls higher so they still go to the same height as the Ground Floor walls. This would be the thing to do if you want correct plans.

In other words you really need to consider how the house is to be built and set it up accordingly in Building Locations.

Ask yourself such questions as:

Where is the house floor surface in relation to the Terrain? (eg 12" above)

Where is the garage floor surface in relation to the Terrain? (eg 6" above - hence the walls are 6" higher!)

If the garage is at the same level as the house (no step up) then do I need to slope the Terrain (or at least the drive) up to the floor level.

By studying how the house should be built you will be able to set up the Building Location settings accordingly and the things should end up in the right place.

Allan
Title: Re: Another Project
Post by: Jack Zimmer on April 30, 2013, 08:16:20 AM
The codes require that a Garage / slab be lower than the house so in the event of poisonous heavy fumes. they would not easily 'seep' into the living quarters on the ground floor.

So when you add a Garage on the Ground level that is set to 1' above grade, the garage door is as you show, above grade.

Normally a garage is one enclosed space , so clicking on the floor only selects the one in the garage which can be lowered to grade level. Then lower the garage door.

The foundation above grade of a garage is normally only 6 or 8 inches , not 1 foot like the house, so the dropped face of the garage and the height of foundation at garage has to also be adjusted.

I find putting a garage on the same level as the Ground floor is the best solution if attached to the house. It makes sections through the building a bit easier to adjust and if a roof is shared between house and garage, it is easier to make one roof than to try and blend two.

Jack
Title: Re: Another Project
Post by: garystan on April 30, 2013, 10:01:24 AM

    Mr. Zimmer
    Mr. Chesney :

                                    Thanks for your help.    I took a look at the link, provided by Jack,  I see where the Garage is  "on the level with the terrain",  and the rest of the house is elevated.     I just wanted to make sure that my design was  "feasible".

                                                                                                                garystan