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Title: attic truss at main level
Post by: hal9000 on July 04, 2009, 08:21:32 AM
Hi,

I want to build an addition to my house so I'm trying to build the existing one first using the program.  The house configuration is as follows: full basement: 34x22 and an attic truss on it.  So yes, the main level is the attic truss (where the bedrooms and washrooms are) and its dimension about 34x12.  The roof configuration is 12/12. 

The problem is that the program do not seem to allow me to put the roof on the basement.   Actually, the problem might reside there:  the basement foundations are 4' high with a wood framing of 4' high on it.   I'm also unable to put the floors and ceilings properly. 

Any help is welcome!
Thanks.
Title: Re: attic truss at main level
Post by: Allan Chesney on July 04, 2009, 10:40:56 AM
Hi, Welcome to the Forum.

I have not personally heard the expression Attic Truss so I may not be understanding your project properly. The picture I have is a foundation with 8' walls (4' below ground level ?) with the upper 4' being timber. The upper floor being under the roof (sloping  walls?). Sounds like what in Australia would be called an 'A Frame'.

If I have understood this correctly it should not really be any problem as far as inserting floors and ceilings are concerned as long as you have the Building Locations (Settings menu) set correctly.  Your foundation should have 8' walls and your ground floor wall should be set to almost nothing (eg 1") if they slope immediately from the floor. In the image I have left a baseboard (skirting as we call it here). Wall height and ceiling height should be 1" and head height should be normal door height. When you put walls in the roof area they will extend to the roof and you will still be able to insert doors etc.  The roof can be inserted onto the 1" wall automatically and a floor. To add a ceiling set it to Cathedral and the slope angle to follow the roof, or you could just change the colour of the roof Underside setting.

The two types of material on the foundation walls can be done by going to the Trim tab on the Wall Properties and add a Wainscot.  This has been discussed before, so search the forum for Wainscot if you do not know how to do it.  You could also use a second wall on the inside set to 4' high and just a fraction of an inch thicker than the foundation wall. Move them together - turn off Collision if necessary.

If there is not enough explanation just ask again about anything you do not understand.  I have added the BLD file . It is very rough but it may help you to see how it was done.  You will notice I have lowered the Terrain so it is half way down the foundation wall.

Maybe I have got what you are doing completely wrong, so you will just have to explain it again if so I have misunderstood.

Allan

Title: Re: attic truss at main level
Post by: hal9000 on July 04, 2009, 04:45:06 PM
Hi Allan.  It's almost it!  I included some pictures of my current house.  And I think you were right, the foundation must have 8' high (don't know where I got that idea).

Thanks very much for you input :)
Title: Re: attic truss at main level
Post by: Allan Chesney on July 05, 2009, 11:10:45 AM
Hi again,

Having seen your photos, yes, your basement should be 8' walls and if you are keeping the same model then lower the terrain and set it to cut out around the Basement location. Obviously if you were starting again with it, you should set the basement floor level at -4' below the terrain (which is zero by default) but with 8' walls. The Bedroom should have 4' walls (or whatever the vertical part height is) and the ceiling should be Tray not Cathedral, to give you the flat section at the top. Set the Tray Height to the distance from the top of the wall to the flat part of the ceiling. Set the ceiling Skirt to zero.

The kitchen part of the house will have to be on third Location (eg Kitchen Level) with the normal height walls (8') and the Floor Height 4' (or whatever it actually is) above the basement Floor Level.  In other words, if the basement is at to a floor level of -8' then the Kitchen will be -4'. If you were going to start it again, then the basement floor should be -4', Kitchen at zero (or floor thickness 6"?) above Terrain level (0) and the bedroom floor level at +4'.

Hope you follow that OK.

All the best with your project.

Allan
Title: Re: attic truss at main level
Post by: hal9000 on July 19, 2009, 07:26:51 AM
Thanks a lot Allan, I'm sure I'll have lots of fun working on this project and I have a year in front of me for it.   If anyhow I'm stuck somewhere, I'll come back :)

Thanks again.


Quote from: Allan Chesney on July 05, 2009, 11:10:45 AM
Hi again,

Having seen your photos, yes, your basement should be 8' walls and if you are keeping the same model then lower the terrain and set it to cut out around the Basement location. Obviously if you were starting again with it, you should set the basement floor level at -4' below the terrain (which is zero by default) but with 8' walls. The Bedroom should have 4' walls (or whatever the vertical part height is) and the ceiling should be Tray not Cathedral, to give you the flat section at the top. Set the Tray Height to the distance from the top of the wall to the flat part of the ceiling. Set the ceiling Skirt to zero.

The kitchen part of the house will have to be on third Location (eg Kitchen Level) with the normal height walls (8') and the Floor Height 4' (or whatever it actually is) above the basement Floor Level.  In other words, if the basement is at to a floor level of -8' then the Kitchen will be -4'. If you were going to start it again, then the basement floor should be -4', Kitchen at zero (or floor thickness 6"?) above Terrain level (0) and the bedroom floor level at +4'.

Hope you follow that OK.

All the best with your project.

Allan