Ned Kelly

[the cad man]

Hi guys,

I'm doing a residential build using flat roofs, and wanted to incorporate some industrial / commercial downpipes.  I need (fairly quickly) some Ned Kelly rain heads for the downpipes.  (I have no idea what these are called in other countries?  See attached).  They are a rain head that is larger on the top (200mm) tapering to the downpipe size on the bottom (90mm).  Some clues on custom making them would be greatly appreciated.

Gaz

[John R]

Scuppers come to mind.

Maybe these kiwi's can help: http://www.eboss.co.nz/assets/ProductInformation/smartrain-rainwaterheads-sumps.pdf
or...
http://www.rutlandguttersupply.com/leader%20heads/LeaderHead_LH036.asp

[Allan Chesney]

Hi Gas,

Some clues on custom making them would be greatly appreciated.

I've never heard the name Ned Kelly for a rain head but I can see where the names comes from!  Probably the easiest way to make one is to use the Members profiles.

1.  Using the Layout toolbar Line tool and draw a 3 sided rectangle in an anticlockwise direction to represent the overhead view of the rain head (make it too big and drag it to size later).

2.  Right click and select Convert to Member

3,  Right click in the catalogue and choose Add Element.

4.  Select a profile that suits (in the image I used Filleted 1)

5.  Change the dimensions to make the shape and size you want.

6.  On the Details tab makes sure that both Mitre options are ticked.

7.  Set the colour, give it a name and save.

8.  Back in the model, drag the sides in to make the width and depth you want.

9.  Select all three sides and right click Move into position and right click Elevate to the height you want.

10. For others required just select the 3 sides and right click Duplicate, using right click Rotate if necessary.

If you want to add it to your catalogue, do all this in a blank project, turn off the Terrain, and Export as a 3DS and Import it again into the catalogue.

I think you are familiar with these processes but if you (or anyone) need more details just ask.
The round one in the image is just a plant pot.

Allan

[the cad man]

Excellent, thank you again Allan, now off to work on it...deadlines!
(you can clearly see below why the conical rainwater heads are called "Ned Kellys" here)

[Allan Chesney]

Hi Gaz,

Just another option, (but this would have to be exported as a 3DS and imported again - so you can turn it over), is to use tapered Columns (see image)

The second image has a few other suggestions from the Kitchen (Interior Accessories): A squashed Salt Shaker, a squashed Wine Bottle, a stretched Bowl and another profile from Custom - Crown Mouldings (also some Baseboard profiles may adapt too.) along with the two earlier ones.

You could also used Filleted or Tapered Footings.

Allan

[Doug.S]

You might also find some pre-made in SketchUp warehouse, or similar enough to modify or just build from scratch.

Some shapes shown are simply line paths drawn, then extruded along a path such as a rectangle....all can be done quickly...as in a couple minutes. I use a program called Hexagon which exports just fine to TFP.

[the cad man]

Hi Doug,
Thanks for your ideas.  I can make anything I need in TurboCAD and export it to TurboFloorPlan (or rather ProArchitect) but it greatly increases the size of the file and has some rendering issues, so I'm trying to learn to build anything I need within the program.

Allan, as always, you're the master, and as you've demonstrated there are many ways to skin a cat, I decided on using your pot plant suggestion for this build as that's most similar to what my design called for.
Thanks again.

Gaz

[Allan Chesney]

Hi Gaz,

Model looks great and the 'Ned Kellys'!  You would never know they are plant pots!!   
I guess they are not the Flinders Ranges in the background - or else you are having a very cold winter! 

Allan