Corner Windows

[AdrianW]

I am trying to add in "Corner Windows" where by the glass folds around the corner , without a rib, suggestions please

Thanks

Adrian

[Jack Zimmer]

Hi Adrian,

When you try and put in windows they always have a 'post' like affect in corners.
This forces you to use other methods.

I think you are also saying you want continuous at the corner (no rib).

The one method I use is to add a thin wall (1/8") and set it to glass on both sides. That way there is no window to insert and the corner is all glass. You then have to add additional walls if you don't want the glass floor to ceiling.

I have attached an example.

To finish top / bottom I used the Trim option and added a 16' high 'Crown' on top and 26" 'Custom Wainscoat' on bottom.

[AdrianW]

Thank you Jack, I shall try it

[the cad man]

I am having a similar problem...note the windows below that meet in the corner, and each window has sidelites...not easy to imitate within the software.

Gaz

[Doug.S]

I did one several TFP versions back and don't remember exactly how but:

You can try making the corner area from multiple locations (in same place) to build various parts in pieces to look correct (I did something like that)

Or you can export the two side windows and combine them into one model in another 3D program (or build from scratch or find a corner window via SU warehouse) and import into TFP.

[the cad man]

Some great ideas Doug, I'll try some different methods and see what works best.  Thank you.

Gaz

[Allan Chesney]

Hi Garry,

I have usually used different locations to do the top and bottom walls an just use two thin 'Boxes' set to glass for the corner glass. You can also use a thin wall for the glass but the walls can interact and cause problems.

Allan

[the cad man]

I have usually used different locations to do the top and bottom walls an just use two thin 'Boxes' set to glass for the corner glass. You can also use a thin wall for the glass but the walls can interact and cause problems.

Hi Allan,

Yes, I've read your method on this one and I think it would work fine if it were a plain glass window, but with the added complexity of the sidelites and the associated framing, I thought I may need to adopt a different approach, what do you think?

Gaz

[Allan Chesney]

Hi Garry,

You could try using an ordinary window as the sidelight alongside tbe opening but it still requires 1mm of wall. Since it is a once only window i would just use Members to assemble the hrame. Quite quick and easy using Duplication.

Allan

[the cad man]

Okay,

That gives me another option to try...I'll let you know how I get on.

Gaz

[Doug.S]

Adding to this previously posted idea: "Or you can export the two side windows and combine them into one model in another 3D program (or build from scratch or find a corner window via SU warehouse) and import into TFP." . . .

I did a room end one time and modelled not only the windows but also the wall as imported .3ds or .obj windows do not insert into a wall like windows from within TFP....so you can model the windows and walls as a whole corner and it may be easier to "assemble" to the rest of TFP model when you import it.  Be sure to set shading domains or add colors to your .3ds or .obj model so you can apply textures to parts of your model...otherwise you may have one object and can only apply one texture--not a good solution for walls and glass.

[the cad man]

Thanks for your ideas Doug...I'd like to learn how to solve these problems within the software, otherwise there's no point in having it, I may as well just use the other program if I have to keep jumping out to it to make everything I need.  But I can see how your method would easily solve this particular problem.

Gaz

[Allan Chesney]

Hi Garry,

The window in the image was produced quite simply in TFP without resorting to outside programs or even export and import - it just uses standard windows and walls - but does involve 3 identical locations. Like you I prefer to avoid other programs

How it was done.

Location 1:
Insert the main walls

Location 2: 
Insert a corner wall in the centre of the main walls on Location 1. (Make it very thin and set all surfaces to glass).
Insert 2 sized windows into this glass wall for your sidelights. (these will automatically cut holes in the main wall also)
Select the glass walls and elevate to the bottom of window and set height of wall to the window head height.
On the glass wall set the Baseboard (left and right side) to a timber size to represent the bottom frame of the window
On the glass wall set the Crown (left and right side) to the same timber to represent the top frame of the window

Location 1:
Insert a Break in the main wall at the outer edges of the two windows.
Select these two walls and set their height to the bottom of the window. (makes brick under the window)
Select these two walls again and right click Duplicate to Locations - to Location 3. (these will become the brick at the top of the window.

Location 3:
Select these dupicated walls and elevate them to the window head height. (So they sit above the window)
Change the height of these walls so that they finish at the top of the main walls on Location 1 if necessary.

Hope you can follow all that.

Allan

[the cad man]

Wow!  Fantastic result Allan,and all within the software...it's going to take me some time to step through all that info a bit at a time to reproduce it, but well done.  I tried one of the methods described above by Doug, and as you can see it worked really well except that I "lost" the masonry aspect of some of my front walls...strange!  Within the "appearance" tab it says that the walls still exist, but maybe now they only exist in Cyberspace!  Looking forward to seeing how to solve this entirely within the program.  I'd love to see inside the roof space of this house to learn how the designer directed all the roof loads on this corner of the structure into the foundations...some fancy structural work I'd bet!

Gaz

[Allan Chesney]

Hi Garry,

It sounds complex in words but is simple really.
Three locations all the same settings (copy of Ground Floor).
Main walls on one, glass walls and side windows on the second and brick above windows on the third. That is it really. Only odd thing is that you change the heights/elevations of the 'window' section.

With the walls above the window, don't forget that they are not attached to the others so they do not make a 'room' as such. This means you will have to use the 'Force wall side to be Exteriot' or it will render black.

Don't know why you lost the brickwork - maybe another good reason to stay within the program!  I have seen similar things happen before.

Allan